I always dreamt of working in an office located high up in one of the Twins. So today I would like to publicly thank the Donald for giving me a slight glimmer of hope that I might still fulfill this dream. Also I would like to thank him for calling pile of shit architecture by its proper name - pile of shit architecture.
The current version looks like the worst case of design by committee - absolute shit. The angles of the cut off roofs and the horrible spire that looks like a chewed up pen stuck next to a stick of modeling clay (that's how they probably got the idea) are Lovecraftian in nature, looking as if the architects came from a place of perverted geometry.
After work I went to take some pictures of Trump's model over at the Trump Tower lobby. I have to give it to the Donald - his place is way photographer friendly.



Trump rebuilt the Wallman Skating Rink after fighting the egos of numerous politicians and politically connected incompetents. That was a medium sized miracle. Now we need a supersized one.
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Can't say that I agree with you - you can't bring back something that was destroyed by rebuilding it exactly the same. В одну реку не войти дважды.
I actually like the new design. I wasn't crazy about it first, but I think it grows on you.
T.
The trouble is, before that terrible day, virtually everyone who critiqued the WTC hated the towers. They were a monolithic ugly-ass set of structures.
You are right. This is exactly what was going through my mind when I was writing this article. But the thing is, the reason why so many people hated the design was because it stood out so much. Same exact thing happened to the Eiffel Tower.
The new design is just as ugly. But does it stand out? Do you see it being used on logos? It's just another bunch of buildings with their tops chopped off at an angle.
Also the Twin Towers were an honest design - they were all building, none of that jumble of trusses that are just for looks crap.
Not exactly the same. Taller and safer. See, in Japan they have a kajillion wooden temples that are thousands of years old. Nothing is left from original materials with which they were built, but they are still considered to be the same temples.
I kind of liked the original design. I would have maybe even accepted it if the building was solid, without the stupid trusses on the top.
The thing about the current proposal is that it's ugly architecture, but good art; the LMDC won't allow the space to be preserved as a fitting memorial, so the horrible eyesore of jagged edges and postmodernist design *forces* people (including the fat-cats demanding a rebuild) to remember that day, while probably providing more comfortable/livable spaces for the occupants than the original towers themselves allowed.
I liked the original towers myself, I don't mind the Japanese perspective and argument (did you know the architect was Japanese?), but I'm not sure it fits the Manhattan mindset, either -- the entire layout of the island is organic and 'Darwinian' in a sense (weave that into the idea of the financial district as you will); buildings remain as long as they serve their purpose, and I think it's an 'American' idea to want to replace them with something "better" when they cease to.
Frankly, since this whole mess saw the tenants flee to the safety of flat suburban sprawl, I'm not sure I see the point; cap it with a public works product, a library or plaza or something of use towards peace (which, in turn, will attract business and raise the economic value of the *surrounding* areas; consider the value Central Park brings to the city) ... paving it over seems about as ridiculous as keeping it fenced-off dirt.
Carrying on with that thought -- are there any provisions for modern environmental features in *either* proposal, or how much oil will it take to run the HVAC plants?
I like the idea of using the skeleton of the original towers in the memorial, but please can we get rid of those flags? They make me want to sing "It's A Small World."
I don't know about Darwinian - entire Rock Center is one huge and successful experiment in central planning.
Hey, if they can't find enough commercial tenants, get some residential ones. Condos in the WTC would sell like hot cakes. And screw the wusses - there are enough companies that would love a location like that.
I would make the memorial walls jagged and twisted - on the model they look like a row of forks.
"I don’t know about Darwinian - entire Rock Center is one huge and successful experiment in central planning."
Yeah, what I meant was that even the central planning gets 'naturally selected' -- the Center has 'outcompeted' any drives for alternate use, while you won't find, say, the Croton Reservoir anymore.
This amounts to weaselly postmodernist justification of the entire process of debate, but that's part of the whole democratic spirit and such hoopla, right? Followed by whoever manages to push their proposal through planting a (metaphorical) flag and seeing if they can hold their ground long enough to build anything.
"Hey, if they can’t find enough commercial tenants, get some residential ones. Condos in the WTC would sell like hot cakes. And screw the wusses - there are enough companies that would love a location like that."
True, though I wonder what the revenue spread would really look like, and moving in just seems like a horrible PR investment for commercial entities. All I personally give a crap about is that designs leave enough room for a fitting memorial -- designed in such a way that public access to it won't have to be cordoned off in the *next* big security scare. I think we've got the tech to do that 'innovatively,' but I don't know, since being 'under' something or 'on' property is now taken as a risk factor to be mitigated. (Thinking of, say, a small 1 foot pipe through each tower that you could look straight up to the sky through, or something similarly space-efficient but moving.)
Making a true arcology of it really does sound promising (residential, condos, etc), or at least less offensive, but I have no idea how to pull that off in New York... there'd be buyers, sure, but can you imagine the stigma unless it's pulled off in a way that really seems 'right'?
Throughout American history, we have been subjugated to great tragedies, both natural and man-made. What has defined us as a people and as a nation has been our unswerving ability to continue to move forward in the pursuit of our collective American Dream(s) and in the name of progress. I see it as a pointless act to leave the footprints of the towers untouched. People died there...yes, but those sites were completely excavated, and any/all remains that may have been there are long gone. We as a people must pick up and move on. The terrorists attacked those towers because of what they symbolized to the American people and to the world; Capitalism, industrial and economic might, and our ability to unite under a common goal and make the wonders of our engineering genius a bold reality. Projects such as that which produced the WTC towers are all but impossible over most of the world, espcially in those nations where terrorists originate and are welcome. In many areas, the various peoples living there can not even get along with each other long enough to start a decent foundation let alone an architectural feat like the WTC. I was overjoyed when I saw a picture of Donald Trump in Investors Business Daily with 2 new towers standing behind him. I agree with him 100%. If we do not rebuild those towers, we will have bowed our heads and submitted to the will of the fundamentalist bastards who brought them down. No longer will a child be able to stare out the car window at the towers in sheer awe and amazement, and be inspired to dream of what could be (as I and it appears numerous others once did). The towers represented the American Dream for many, and the real tragedy would be to not restore the site to its former glory. The American people must come to realize that these fundamentalists want to permanently halt change and progress and force the entire world to live and believe as they do. They want us to cover our women up and take away their rights. They want to put Jews, Christians and Pagans alike to death. They wish to exterminate all that is different from them and all that they perceive to be unclean. They hate us because we are a diverse people and because of how successful being a diverse people has made us. The most powerful message we can send them is not a missile, bomb or bullet; it is rebuilding that which was destroyed and to let the new towers stand defiantly taller than before.
Thank you Mr. Trump for offering a hope that the New York skyline will be restored to its former greatness. Many blessings to you and your endeavors.
Ever onward, ever upward,
Christopher Lazaro
IBM @ American Express
Ever onward? I thought Watson men, partners of T.J. weren't using that slogan anymore. :)
i think the towers being rebuilt is a great and strong idea, i just hope the rest of the head honchos who make the ultimate decision will agree, after all they're the only ones who have a say.
>but I think it grows on you.
So does fungus...
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